Curse

~ Dan ~ · Jan 11, 2008, 11:57 AM // 11:57

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Originally Posted by Washi

[skill]conjure flame[/skill] [skill]conjure frost[/skill] [skill]conjure lightning[/skill]

Ah yes, my enchant list wasn't even considering secondary skills.

[skill]Reversal Of Fortune[/skill] with dwayna.
[skill]Storm Djinn's Haste[/skill] with conjure lightning.

.. the list goes on, Sirius-NZ.. you get the point.

Sirius-NZ · Jan 11, 2008, 01:30 PM // 13:30

...yeah. Imagination required.

I note that I prefer to use zealous scythe snathes with most PvP builds to keep the attacks running, which would rule out the Conjure skills, though. May work if the attacks are cheap enough and there aren't too many energy sinks.

~ Dan ~ · Jan 11, 2008, 01:37 PM // 13:37

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Originally Posted by Sirius-NZ

...yeah. Imagination required.

I note that I prefer to use zealous scythe snathes with most PvP builds to keep the attacks running, which would rule out the Conjure skills, though. May work if the attacks are cheap enough and there aren't too many energy sinks.

[skill]Wounding Strike[/skill][skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill][skill]Eremite's Attack[/skill] is usually a good combo, which isn't energy heavy. And if you're a good dervish, you won't be spamming them on recharge anyway.

Der_Pardner · Jan 11, 2008, 09:34 PM // 21:34

that`s my new pvp build
[skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill][skill]Wild Blow[/skill][skill]Aura Of Thorns[/skill][skill]Armor Of Sanctity[/skill][skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill][skill]Heart Of Fury[/skill][skill]Avatar Of Lyssa[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

i need an effective enchantment build, any suggestions?
another question, i have windwalker insignia on each armor piece, so i`ll get +100 armor while enchanted with 4 spells?

Destromath · Jan 12, 2008, 03:31 AM // 03:31

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Originally Posted by Der_Pardner

i need an effective enchantment build, any suggestions?
another question, i have windwalker insignia on each armor piece, so i`ll get +100 armor while enchanted with 4 spells?

Yep, that's why they're so popular =D. By the way, it only stacks up to +20 armor though, for a max of 90 (notice that it only mentions 4 enchantments in the description).

Like I was told a while ago (>_>), it's good to mainly use 2-3 enchants. Less is fine because you get more attack skills, but more is really starting to push the limit. At most, you should only use 2 defensive enchants. An example of what I use is this:

[skill]Mystic Vigor[/skill][skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill][skill]Heart of Fury[/skill]
Scythe Mastery: 11+1+1
Mysticism: 11+1
Earth Prayers: 8+1

Or when I'm feeling like getting a bit more out of HoF and some extra damage:

[skill]Mystic Vigor[/skill][skill]Heart of Fury[/skill][skill]Watchful Intervention[/skill]
Scythe Mastery: 12+1+1
Mysticism: 12+1

Watchful Intervention is almost always a good choice, as are Mystic Vigor and Heart of Fury. Mystic Regeneration provides decent regen, but you shouldn't rely on it too heavily (I'm trying to get out of the habit of using it often, but I absolutely hate degen >_<).

Bassu · Jan 12, 2008, 10:45 AM // 10:45

And if you're playing AoL ALWAYS take AT LEAST 2 shot-activation skills to get the damage bonus from Lyssa easily (Mystic Sweep, Eremite's Attack, Protector's Strike are usually the best choice).

Daddy_Gamer · Feb 02, 2008, 08:13 PM // 20:13

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Originally Posted by Der_Pardner

that`s my new pvp build
[skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill][skill]Wild Blow[/skill][skill]Aura Of Thorns[/skill][skill]Armor Of Sanctity[/skill][skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill][skill]Heart Of Fury[/skill][skill]Avatar Of Lyssa[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

i need an effective enchantment build, any suggestions?
another question, i have windwalker insignia on each armor piece, so i`ll get +100 armor while enchanted with 4 spells?

One Thing I would recommend, Replace the Res Sig for
[skill]Signet of Pious Light[/skill]
You should always have this when u use [skill]Aura Of Thorns[/skill] or any
enchant the does heal, dmg, condition when u drop it.
Cripple em then bleed em and get healed in 2 keys strokes.

Coloneh · Feb 02, 2008, 08:44 PM // 20:44

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Originally Posted by Daddy_Gamer

One Thing I would recommend, Replace the Res Sig for
[skill]Signet of Pious Light[/skill]
You should always have this when u use [skill]Aura Of Thorns[/skill] or any
enchant the does heal, dmg, condition when u drop it.
Cripple em then bleed em and get healed in 2 keys strokes.

no
dont do that

Dervo · Feb 02, 2008, 10:26 PM // 22:26

Please, stay away from aura of thorns, and like Coloneh said, sig of pious light combined with aura of thorns is just horrible. If you must have an enchant that causes crippled, go with veil of thorns, the only thing that would make aura of thorns worse is if it was adjacent range instead of nearby. If an enemy is kiting from you in the first place, you aren't going to snare them with aura as the activation time takes too long, and if they aren't kiting from you they are probably attacking you. That means that veil will work on them too, even if they are wanding or shooting at you with a non-melee weapon. Plus it combines better with armor of sanctity, although with the duration of that enchant, I really recommend against using it.

Other than that, all I can say is you better not plan on using that in HA as you will get laughed at by people you try to team up with, and if you find someone who doesn't laugh... then the opposing team will be laughing at all of you. (I stay away from HA myself).

The reason why that build doesn't work well imo? Well, I'll ask a few questions and see if you can guess why, when you are casting those enchantments, are you attacking? What does Avatar of Lyssa benefit from doing? How many offensive enchants do you have? How many defensive enchants do you have? Are you the last one on your team standing... does that mean that your build is great at offense and defense, or does it mean the other team ignored you because you are focusing too much on defense? Are you the first one to die? Is that because you don't have enough defense, or because you have the wrong type of defense? Ie, don't use mystic regen if there are lots of people using spike damage.

*sigh* This is just one more thread showing why I warn people when they tell me they want to play a derv that it is a hard class to play well.

~ Dan ~ · Feb 03, 2008, 11:11 AM // 11:11

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Originally Posted by Dervo

*sigh* This is just one more thread showing why I warn people when they tell me they want to play a derv that it is a hard class to play well.

It's not so much that. I find it's harder for newbie dervs to take a hint (see: [skill]Avatar of Balthazar[/skill] threads).